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Liquid Architecture 5: Terre Thaemlitz
Liquid Architecture 5: Terre Thaemlitz
photos © Ruthie Singer De Capite 2000



DROPPING THE LOVEBOMB
An Interview with Terre Thaemlitz
by Yew-Sun


..:: Part ONE | TWO

Japan-based Terre Thaemiltz is an award-winning electroacoustic laptop musician and a queer activist, with roots as a house DJ in New York's notorious transgender clubs and as an ambient music producer. He has a firm stance on reconfiguring notions of performativity and trangenderism, and you can learn more in Part 2 of our interview. Terre Thaemiltz brings the Lovebomb tour to Sydney @ Disorientation Lanfranchis Memorial Discoteque Thurs June 10, Fabrique, Brisbane Powerhouse Sat June 12, and Kaleide Theatre Melbourne, RMIT University, Fri June 18.

Back to Part 1 of the interview

Have you found many gadgets and sound sampling devices since your move to Japan?

I am not a real gadget whore. I have no interest in competing with all of the software and hardware geeks who always have the latest and greatest of everything. I don't think it's so important – which is lucky, since I don't have the money anyway! For me, it's more important to find equipment you like, and explore it. Don't worry about being technologically behind, because everyone is always behind in some way. I have found some nice things in the garbage in Japan: old effect units, drum machines, turntables. It's a bit of a hobby of mine to clean them up and do minor repairs. Some of them have come in handy. In particular, people are always throwing away old microphone spring-reverbs for singing karaoke. Clean 'em up and you can run all kinds of sounds through them – much nicer than digital reverbs.

Are the Espanic vocoder speech sounds on your Lovebomb tracks an allegory of your preoccupation with issues of transgenderism and identity politics?

Actually, “Lovebomb” does not use vocoding, but a new process developed by Christopher Penrose called “Co-depend.” The difference is that vocoding has a “control sound source” which the second sound is pushed through. “Co-depend” runs an analysis of both sound sources, and like the name implies, has both files contribute equally to the output sound. This does not mean the output is always a “middling” of the two sounds – the results can be quite surprising. As you said, I think the act of processing sound sources is a form of recontextualisation that has parallels with transgenderism as a form of recontextualising gender signifiers. In specific relation to the Lovebomb theme, I thought the “Co-depend” process contained some nice metaphors related to love and co-dependency.

Given that there are a plethora of female vocalists in mainstream and alternate music worlds, do your digitised 'sound texts' change the 'authorial status' of the feminine in the field of contemporary song and electro-acoustic composition?

I think that distortion and audible processing helps “de-soul” the voice. Perhaps it makes the voice function a bit more as a representational device, rather than the typical way of hearing vocals as a direct expression of emotion. In the case of spoken narrative, it's even harder to get people to listen beyond the surface storytelling. While I try to select vocals and spoken word passages that relate to the project's content, their real contribution is not so much in what they say as how we hear them. For example, the track “Between Empathy and Sympathy is Time (Apartheid)” features an early ANC/People's Army radio broadcast in which the announcer is encouraging terrorism – quite different from the agenda of today's ANC.

The real point of this piece is not so much a commentary on changes in the ANC or apartheid. Rather, it's about placing extreme alienation within a moment of loving affiliation – that moment in a relationship where you look at your lover and say, “I don't even know who you are anymore”. Ha, ha! When listening to this track, most people have a clear anti-apartheid stance, and in the beginning of this piece they presume a level of agreement with the ANC announcer. However, as the speech goes on and takes violent turns, most people end up calling their initial agreement into question. Love and political alliance is the theme.

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In the early '90s you had a reputation as a house DJ in New York. Could you tell us about your transition from house to electro-acoustic audio collage?

My taste in music was quite eclectic since childhood, but of course this was difficult to reflect as a house DJ in the late '80s and early '90s. I was frustrated with the limitations of the house scene, and kept losing DJ jobs because I refused to play major-label shit, or couldn't find clubs that played the tracks I liked. But there were nice records being produced...occasionally! After losing my regular gig at Sally's II, I gave up on DJing. I decided to try making music instead of DJing it, but I guess I was a bit jaded and pissed at the house scene, so I had no energy to make music that conformed to the house formula. That's how the first Comatonse release came about, which was really a crossover of ambient, deep house, jazz improv, breaks.

I never honestly expected any sort of response. Producing in a lot of genres from house to electroacoustique to neo-expressionist piano solos is my way of not getting caught up in the hype of any one particular music movement. In part, this is modelled after my idol Haruomi Hosono, whose catalogue spans the gamut from rock to technopop to ambient to electroacoustique to acid house to trance. There's a lot he does that falls into genres I don't like, and his approach is totally spiritually loaded, but despite these turn-offs I find this diversity of musical identities interesting.

What were your major influences while you were growing up?

I guess the things that pushed me away from formalist music were over exposure to Catholic church music and being forced to take violin lessons as a child, which I fervently resisted year after year by never practicing or learning to read music. The things that pushed me toward electronic music were roller-disco in my pre-teen years (I was pretty damn good!) and an appeal for music without guitars, since I associated rock'n'roll with the people who harassed me. The irony was that there were a lot of classic synth solos working their way into rock, like “Come Sail Away” by Styx and the intro and outro to “Fly Like An Eagle” by the Steve Miller Band. I used to make myself mix tapes off the radio with just these short little solos. So there was a lot of
crossover in influences.

Where did the name of your label, Comatonse, come from, and what is the future for Comatonse?

The name “Comatonse Recordings” (pronounced “coma-tones”) is a bit of a bad joke gotten out of hand. I issued my first record, Comatonse.000 (featuring “Raw Through a Straw” and “Tranquilizer”), in 1993, when there was a rather strong crossover between certain types of house music and ambient. Of course, both of these musics are drenched in flaky spiritualism and “tripping out,” which is of no interest to me as a very non-spiritual socio-materialist. I found (and still find) it oppressive. You'd be surprised how hard it is for people to accept that you can relax, be at peace etc without engaging in anything “spiritual”! To express my dislike for the spiritual rhetoric being forced upon my audio, as a kind of dark joke I latched on to the image of a person in a coma as someone who had an incredibly aggressive and disempowering state of relaxation forced upon them.

Comatonse releases tend to be vinyl, semi-DJ oriented records. This is because it is the only type of distribution I have been able to secure – and it's not even formal distribution at that. I don't have a release schedule, just one-off projects which I like. It keeps things small and the quality up (at least I'd like to think so). In July, there will be a 10th-anniversary reissue of the first release, called Comatonse.000.R2. The A-side combines the original A- and B-side tracks. The B-side combines recordings of the only live performances I have ever done of these tracks, which happened in Japan in 2003, ten years after their release.

And when I say “live,” I mean that in the conventional sense of real keyboard playing and improvisation. It was the first time I had ever “played live” in that way, so they are really rare recordings in that sense. This record will be distributed through Cisco Music in Japan, and eventually made available through the Comatonse website. Meanwhile, I will continue using Comatonse Recordings as the umbrella production organization through which I will license and release other projects, such as Lovebomb...

LINKS
http://www.comatonse.com/releases/c011.html
http://www.comatonse.com/listening/ainobakudan.html
http://www.sanriot.com
http://www.comatonse.com/releases/c011.html
http://www.comatonse.com/listening/lovebomb.html

interview © Yew-Sun 2004

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LIQUID ARCHITECTURE 5: FESTIVAL OF SOUND ARTS, July 13 ‘ 25, 2004
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